The lock up torque convertor must have the convertor clutch engaged when going any appreciable distance in top gear. Unless of course you have either a very low low geared rear end (3.54 and up)or very large oil cooler. Aftermarket companies sell non-locking convertors, but don't buy one for street. You can gain control of the convertor clutch by a simple switch, if you like. You need to buy a trans manual and identify the fourth gear oil pressure switch on the valve body inside the oil pan. You need a "normally open" non- grounding switch there, if there is a NC or "normally closed" switch, or a pipe plug with no switch, then change it. DO NOT USE a grounding switch (one terminal) YOU MUST USE A NON-GROUNDING switch (two terminal) Most of these trannys have several of these pressure switches on the valve body. If you do not have a car computor that needs to know when the car is in second or third or?? , then move the switch that you need to the fourth gear spot. You can use that switch to energize the convertor clutch solenoid whenever you hit fourth gear. You need to identify the convertor clutch valve solenoid. Run that wire to the plug-in on the case. Run the two 4th gear pressure switch wires to the same plug-in connector on the case. ONE of the two 4th gear wires will go to the SAME terminal as the solenoid wire. The other wire gets a terminal of its own. You can install a dash on-off switch with 12V power from the acc. or ign switch. If you run that switched power wire to your 4th gear pressure switch terminal on the trans you will have control to lock the convertor clutch in fourth, but it automatically unlocks in the lower gears if you forget, or if you want it to be "automatic". If you hook the dash switch to the solenoid terminal you will have ABSOLUTE control over the lockup including the lower gears, but DON'T forget to unlock it at the right time or you're n trouble! I recommend routing it through the 4th pressure switch to be safe from mistakes. If B&M tells you their controller works with your 200 4R grab that controller. A friend of mine (a trans shop owner) has a 700 R4 in a 454 pickup with a B&M controller. His acts exactly like a FIVE speed. In fourth at his chosen speed, the convertor locks in, the tach drops 400-500 RPM and it feels exactly like a fifth gear just kiced in. I recommend doing the above to a 700 R4 and getting rid of that weaker 200-4R. The 200 4R was used for V6's and costs just as much to rebuild as a genuine 700 R4. Your 200 4R is the same length as a TH 350 and the manual 4 speeds. The 700 R4 is the same length as a TH 400 so you will need a slightly shorter driveshaft if you switch. If you stay with rebuilding the 200 4R, you MUST put in a shift kit. It will double the life of your clutches. Those soft "invisible" GM shifts are slipping the clutches way too much. When you must decide which setting in the shift kit, choose the "RV" setting and NOT the street rod setting. The street rod setting is too harsh, the "RV" setting is just perfect for softer shifts without slipping clutches. Good Luck DavidLeVesque DJLevesque@webtv.net (David Levesque) ========================================================= If the 200R4 is designed like the 700R4, then the lockup control inside = the trans is a small solenoid. (don't know if it should cost $159) and = what looks like a brake light switch screwed into the 3rd gear oil gallery = behind the trans filter. An easy way to keep the lockup function and = avoid all the brake light circuit / vacuum switch hassle of the usual = circuit is to move the internal trans switch to the 4th gear oil gallery = and get the power from a 2amp fused +12 volt line. The trans will then = only lockup in 4th gear and drop right out as soon as you slow down. I'd = check on the replacement cost of the solenoid and switch before investing = in the time and effort to change out the torque converter / Bob Johnstone=20 ---------------------------- When I installed a 700-R4 behind the Studebaker V-8 in our GT Hawk in mid-1993, I didn't have the time to install an automatic lock-up assembly for the torque converter, so I wired it to lock up manually by activating a normally open (NO) single-pole, single-throw (SPST) toggle switch. In 50,000 miles of driving it, I have had no difficulty with it at all and it cost all of $5.00 in parts. Its only problem is that the driver must activate the torque converter's lock-up feature manually. Should the driver forget to unlock the converter, starting from a stop elicits harsh and very early upshifts. Annoying, but not critical from what I can tell. With my engine's design and the 3.31:1 rear gears, I generally don't lock the converter up until fourth gear and 60 MPH. Around town, I leave it unlocked. I'll probably do the same thing with the trans to be installed behind my twin-turbo Avanti engine when it's time for it to be installed. Chris Altenburg --------------------------