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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:34 am Post subject: The Burke Avanti Project |
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OK Everyone,
I had one amazing day.
First I had the pleasure of meeting HDCadet in person.
Chuck is a great guy. Not only did he take my wife and I to see the
storied Burke Avanti but he also let us get close to and admire his R3
Avanti.
If you have not seen this car I have to tell you it is Awesome.
I walked into the garage and I was 11 years old again and standing in
the showroom of Frost and French Studebaker in Santa Monica and looking
at my first R3.
This car is museum quality in every aspect.
The detail in the engine compartment was beyond anything I have
personally witnessed. This car is the standard by which other restored
to stock cars should be judged.
Then we went and saw the Burke Avanti. I only have time to post one
picture tonight and so I thought I'd go for a little jealousy and envy
Yes, that is yours truely sitting behind the wheel and reaching up
to pop the chute of one of the most famous Studebakers to ever fly
across the salt.
I can feel the envy! LOL I will have more to say and more pics tomorrow if time permits.
Sleep will be impossible for me tonight.
I can still smell the salt on the car.
Silver Hawk Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker.
Family had a maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully
in Southern California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying
down the salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe.
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Reverborama Studebaker Racing Team Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Very Cool! Post more pictures! |
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Dave Bloomberg Studebaker Racing Team Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Dan you look great in that most famus Avanti to ever hit the salt. Looks like you are going 200+ mph, Dave _________________ Original
owner of 1963 Avanti, race my Avanti at Bonneville, Muroc Dry lake
& El Mirage, presently hold world records for D/CPS at Bonneville,
Muroc & El Mirage race courses.
In 2006 became member of the Bonneville 200 MPH Club. |
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sbca96 R5 Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Is it XM equiped?
Tom _________________ '63 Avanti, 03 Mustang Cobra 13"
front disc/98 GT rear, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather
seats, TKO TR-3550 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276
cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:05 am Post subject: The Burke Story |
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Hello Everyone,
I am still flying from my day yesterday. Again, I would like to publicly thank Chuck for being so gracious to Kathy and I.
We got to see two very impressive Studebakers in one day.
I want to encourage each of you to be sure and make it a point to see Chuck's beautiful R3 if your ever in the area.
Now for the Burke car update.
I am going to try to post a slide show link on this post for all to see.
The pictures do not do the car justice but you will get the idea.
I could have spent all day looking at all the details of this car.
While it is not up to today's standards for a clean build the car is very well built and engineered.
Obviously if in 1979 it averaged over 220 at Bonneville.
The car is in remarkably good shape considering it's 36 years (1963 to
1997 according to the stickers) of service in Bonneville racing.
I couldn't help but be in awe of the car.
I have seen many articles over the course of my life that were written about this car and it's accomplishments.
So you have to know that I am both honored and consider it a priviledge
to be offered the chance to restore this car to it's true purpose and
glory.
This car deserves to be reunited with the salt.
So now the task of putting together a plan and a program to make this dream come true.
I would like to take this opportunity to ask my fellow Studebaker
racers if they would like to be a part of this great undertaking.
As I see it there is a car, a trailer, an engine and a lot of work to be done.
While I am confident that I can get the manpower needed to do the work
there is a long list of things that will be needed to make this dream a
reality.
So please consider the project and if you feel that you want to have a part in it, (lending parts or ?) let me know.
You can send me a message and I will get back to you.
If you wish to talk to me in person just leave your contact information in your message.
So barring a screw up here are the pictures from yesterday.
Enjoy and remember drool on the key board can cause a short circuit and possibly ruin your computer.
(slideshow)
or
[/url]https://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/dieselguy2006/?action=view¤t=610fcf97.pbw[/url]
Just click on the picture and sit back and enjoy. There are 45 pictures total.
Silver Hawk Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker.
Family had a maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully
in Southern California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying
down the salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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mbstude R2 Member
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Good luck Dan. This is my new favorite thread. _________________ Matthew Burnette
Your Friendly Stude Trim Bender
Starlight Stainless
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Alan Studebaker Racing Team Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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There
are some serious safety issues around the rear shackles, spring eye and
eye bushings. That car has seen some serious modifications since I last
saw it in 1969. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject: So you noyiced did you. |
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Alan,
Yes there are some thigns that will need to be corrected but that is
about the most serious one that I was able to see with the car on the
trailer. I will know more when it's on a rack and can get a good look
at it. Do you remember any details about the last time you saw the car?
Where was it and was it at Bonneville? How fast did it go? Who was
driving it? Just looking for information about the car. Thanks.
Silver Hawk Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker.
Family had a maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully
in Southern California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying
down the salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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Alan Studebaker Racing Team Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Dan,
I worked for Paxton from Aug. 66 till April 69. During that time I
removed the 229 and put a 331 Chrysler in it. The Due got the Cammer.
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sbca96 R5 Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Love the "speed tape" on the passengers side rear quarter glass. Though
it looks like a good base to start with for sure. We are cheering for yah!
Two good things to buy for your project is a nice digital camera, I've found
my Canon Rebel XT to be a great all around camera. Its also an SLR so if
you have some lenses from a film SLR you can use them too.
The second item is a good video camera to document the process. Canon
has a nice mini DV camera that shoots both wide screen and 4:3 in digital.
Get a good camera mount, or add a mount to the roll cage for your runs.
Stay away from Sony.
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:30 am Post subject: Wow. |
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Alan,
I would love to know more. Chuck filled me in on the first three engines.
It must have been something working on that car when it was fresh.
It looks like someone didn't want to spend the money for narrowing the differential and moving the springs inboard.
So they put the spring shackles, air shocks, and a helper spring set up that you use for a truck when your towing a trailer.
Pretty mouse but it will not look like that when we get done with it.
Tom,
I think your right about the camera and video camera.
I plan to get my brother to come down and take some real pictures and
then he can teach my wife and I how to use the camera we have.
When used right it takes some awesome pictures.
So we hope to get that fixed before we start on the car.
I already started the book/journal.
This is going to be awesome.
Silver Hawk Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker.
Family had a maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully
in Southern California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying
down the salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:14 am Post subject: Cool Camera |
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Tom,
That is a cool looking camera. Do you think there are any deals out there right now on those? About what do they go for?
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:26 am Post subject: Flashback |
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I
have to tell everyone about the incredible moment I had while checking
out the Avanti. When I climbed into a drivers seat and looked out the
window I was immediately transported back to 1969. Sitting in the back
seat because of the engine being under the dash it reminded me of the
Flower Power Barracuda. It was a AA/GS (double a gas supercharged) car
with a 426 Blown and Injected Hemi. It held the NHRA national record at
one time, 8:67 at 186 MPH. I was the transmission builder, not bad work
for a 17 year old kid. I was building short shaft torqueflites for him
and a few other racers. You can't imagine what it is like to go from 0
to 180 mph in 8 seconds. It's both exhilarating and scary. The Avanti
has the box where the dash should be, the throttle petal with the toe
return hook and a handle brake set up. When I reached up for the
parachute handle I got goose bumps remembering what it was like. I
can't wait to take this hot rod for a ride. Only a few more obstacles
standing in the way but we are very close to closing the deal. Stay
tuned.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:44 am Post subject: Rear Suspension |
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I thought some of you might like a closer look at the rear suspension. Very interesting.
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There are the usual elements. Sway bar, leaf springs, ladder bars and
then some oddities. Notice the heavy duty chain with the bolt through
it. Also the add on ad-a-leaf set up and air shocks. The shackels,
add-a-leaf and air shocks I think were added to get clearance for the
18" wheels and land speed tires. The pictures of the back of the car
are a little deceiving as the right front tire is flat. That lifts the
left rear up a bit. But all in all the only purpose I can see for those
items is to lift the back end up. Any other thoughts are welcome.
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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Alan Studebaker Racing Team Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Looks
like a Ford 9" with truck link type traction bars. The early Ford
spring hanger brackets are 43" wide center to center and the Avanti is
41 1/4" some people take and spread the Stude springs apart to fit in
the Ford brackets. Lots of things in bind. |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:14 am Post subject: Avanti Springs? |
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Alan,
Do those springs look like Avanti springs to you. I thought they looked
wrong for a Studebaker. I think they may be out of a brand X car. I
will use the ladder bars and sway bar. Don't like air shocks. If it
takes narrowing the differential to make the tires fit under the wheel
wells then so be it. The rear spring hangers have got to go. If things
get narrowed then a new set up will be part of the fix. Any thought on
the chain?
Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker. Family had a
maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully in Southern
California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying down the
salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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sbca96 R5 Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:51 am Post subject: Re: Cool Camera |
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SilverHawkDan wrote: | Tom,
That is a cool looking camera. Do you think there are any deals out there right now on those? About what do they go for? Dan |
I did a quick search for the exact model and they are in closeout, so if you
find one it should be pretty cheap, there is a new model that replaces it. I
took my "driving around" video on Youtube with it, and the shifting through
the gears videos. Should be able to get one for $200 to $250 no problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMZ_MObo7DA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVfCkFcjmVw
Tom |
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sbca96 R5 Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:53 am Post subject: |
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From the pictures they look like Avanti springs to me, they are the same
as Lark and wagons, just a different combination/number of springs. Might
be worth while to go with an upper/lower control arm suspension and then
use adjustable height coil overs to dial it in perfect.
Tom |
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Jeff Rice Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Rear Suspension |
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Looking at this one picture......
The only thing truly 'lacking' is adjustability.
Your ride height can be manipulated with a different spring curve/length to eliminate the air shocks.
But the pinion angle is locked with that old style GM pickup style
ladder bar. (nothing wrong with that, other than a lack of
adjustability).
If the pinion angle is OK at the ride height you intend to run,
then I would suggest having the car ride height and spring rate set at
a good spring shop.
They are equipped to do this kind of work.
They can add/remove leaves and re-arch the spring if needed.
(I know some do not like re-arching springs, but this is a vehicle
that only intends on running a couple hundred miles in the next few
years)
If the pinion angle needs changing (which I doubt if it was run
that fast this way) then perhaps the ladder type bar could be rebuilt
with either the correct angle built in, or some adjustability built
in..
The intention is to make the car safe, run true, and get it out on the salt/dry lakes.
Just the safety upgrades are going to require a lot of work.
I'll betcha a salt flats donut Dave's makin' a list and checkin' it twice...or thrice
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Alan Studebaker Racing Team Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Dan,
In looking at the pics it appears to be a 64-72 Chrysler E-body spring
like off 65-66 Ramchargers. You can buy them from Speedway and others
for about $100 each. They are too long for an Avanti. The Avanti spring
is 50 1/4" center of eye to eye. The Chrysler is 54 3/4" eye to eye.
Looks like he re rolled the eye. The Chrysler is a 1" eye and the
Avanti is .875". The front portion of the springs are almost the same
with a 1 1/2" eye and 20" from center of eye to center of locating pin
for axle pad for the Avanti, Chrysler is 20 1/4". The Avanti spring is
2 1/2" wide and .270" thick and 5 leaves. The Chrysler is .320" thick
and 2 1/2" wide with 4 leaves. The locating pins are different too. The
Avanti being 9/16" with a 3/8" fine thread and the Chrysler 1/2" pin
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:54 am Post subject: It's a GO!!! |
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Hello Studebakers Racers
I wanted to let you know that the Bucket List Dream, Burke Avanti
project is a GO! Today I made contact with the enigne provider and he
is fully onboard with this dream project. So the car will be outfitted
with a Jim Lange built 304 and Novi 2000. I hope to go down in the next
week or two to pick up the car and get started with the inspection and
teardown process. I plan to post the progress and each of the
individual project builds on the site for all to follow along. We hope
to have the car at El Mirage in May 2010 for certification and shake
down. So stay tuned.
Jeff,
You are right about wanting the car to be safe. I hope that we can
put some adjustability into the suspension without changing the overall
look. I think we can make the attaching point adjustable keeping the
ladder bars original at the differential attaching point. When I get
the car home I will take some more pictures with detail and some
measurements to get your imput.
Alan,
That was what I thought. As a former Mopar racer they looked S/S
all the way. The scary part for me was the rear attaching point. The
shackle is pushed as far back as it will go. The rear eye has been cut
off and the eye looped. As far as I could see there was no bushing just
the 3/4" bolt shoved through the spring perch. I see some custom made
springs in the future. I really think the car will look and handle
better with the body lower and the tires tucked in the wheel wells. I
can't wait to see what that chain is attached to.
Tom,
I looked in the Sunday paper and there are several slaes on the latest
generation of that camera. Thanks for the lead and information.
Silver Hawk Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker.
Family had a maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully
in Southern California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying
down the salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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Dave Bloomberg Studebaker Racing Team Member
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Dan
looking at your picture of the underside at the rear of car is sure
different than mine. I have the orignal Avanti springs with one extra
leaf added and standard shocks. And so far up to a speed of 201mph no
problems with handling. One thing to be concerned about is when you add
ballast to the car for stability at high speeds you need the rear
springs to be strong enough for the extra weight, in my case 650 lbs of
ballast, also your rear tires have to be rated at the extra weight on
them too. The Goodyear front runers are used in the front of my car at
23" dia on 15 " racing wheels and the rear are Goodyear Front runners
that are 28.1" dia on 15" wheels, Goodyear makes two configuations of
racing tires for the rear, the standard front runners are around $140
each and a stronger thicker side wall Goodyear Bonneville tire is
around $250 each which is a safer tire if your ballast is very heavy.
These tires can be ordered from Carrol Shelby in Las Vegas, IN your
class for racing which is D/CBALT you can run a rear wing (Spoiler)
like Jim Lange did, then you don't need as much ballast. In looking at
your picture of the underside of the rear, where does the parachute
attach to the car?? Its very important that is be attached at the
correct spot to ensure it won't lift the front wheels of the car when
it opens if mounted to high or if too low will lift the rear wheels of
the ground when it opens. I'm sure that Bill Burke has located it
correctly being he has been at 240 with the car. Take care, I'm excited
about your project and goal, Dave _________________ Original
owner of 1963 Avanti, race my Avanti at Bonneville, Muroc Dry lake
& El Mirage, presently hold world records for D/CPS at Bonneville,
Muroc & El Mirage race courses.
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:46 am Post subject: Rear Suspension |
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Dave,
I am not sure why the suspension is so beefed up but I suspect it was
to clear the rear tires from the underside of the wheel well lip.
Chuck told me that the spare tire well on the car has been filled with cement.
Not sure what cement weights hardened but that might explain some of the additions.
The car has 18" Halibrand wheels out back and 15" Halibrands up front.
I didn't measure the diameter but I will do it when we get the car up here.
As for the parachute it appears that there were two chutes mounted in the back of the trunk lid.
If you look at the pictures of the back of the car you will see where a
section of the trunk lid has been cut away and a piece of sheet metal
was installed.
I saw some mounting rings inside the trunk area and assumed those were for the parachute attachment.
Again I will need to take a closer look at that situation.
The other thing I failed to look at closely was the seat belt and shoulder harness mountings.
I know that research has shown that there are optimal attaching points and that might have to be modified.
But all in all I missed the details because I was in awe of the car.
I have followed this car through three decades and just to be offered the use of the car was very overwhelming and still is.
But when it comes to the build the awe will take second place to making sure the car is fast and safe.
I will keep in mind during the build that I don't want to do anything
that will forever alter the original design and intent of the builders.
Modify yes, rebuild not unless absolutely necessary.
I can't wait to get started.
Silver Hawk Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker.
Family had a maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully
in Southern California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying
down the salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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stewed R2 Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:33 am Post subject: |
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Alan wrote: | There
are some serious safety issues around the rear shackles, spring eye and
eye bushings. That car has seen some serious modifications since I last
saw it in 1969. |
Iwas on the salt in 1969 and remember seeing the car.Dan I am now
looking at the 1968 Speed Week coverage in the HOT ROD YEARBOOK #8,page
142 with a pic of the car under power.Set record in B/GC at 182.867mph
driven by Steve Burke.Had my computer worked on last JULY,never hooked
up my printer,so can't scan and post pic right now.Maybe later this
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Btw, the car did a one-way 252ish, but blew on the return. That was with a supercharged Chrysler.
Bill Burke was not kind in his description of the person who insisted
on and did the final tuning between runs when we discussed this some
years ago! |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:03 am Post subject: Not too kind? |
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Avanti,
If the car did 252 on the first pass and the tuner decided to change
things I would hope they made little changes not big ones. It's very
difficult with engine wear and other factors to make back to back runs
that are real close to each other. Things like weather and track
conditions come into play also. So if Bill thought the tuner had made
too big an adjustement then he probably wasn't too happy with them. As
a Mopar guy I think the Hemi would be a good fit for the car but how
much sweeter to go 200+ with Stude power.
I expect to hear from Jim Lange about the engine for the Burke car this
coming week. I'll be sure and keep you posted. Still have not found a
garage for the project but am hopeful the right place will emerge. Did
line up a possible rotisserie to use for the undercarriage prep. Talked
to the spring guy and he is willing to look at the car and see if the
springs on the car can be modified or if they will have to be replaced.
Looking at Koni coil overs to replace the air shocks. Got my rule book
yesterday. Got some reading to do and then meet with David Bloomberg to
see about the 2010 changes. Looks like head restraints are the biggest
change.
Silver Hawk Dan _________________ Grew up Studebaker.
Family had a maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced successfully
in Southern California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going to be flying
down the salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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stewed R2 Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:37 am Post subject: |
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Have had no luck in getting my printer/scanner to talk with my computer.
Very dissapointing.I'll keep trying. |
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sbca96 R5 Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:10 am Post subject: |
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stewed wrote: | Have had no luck in getting my printer/scanner to talk with my computer.
Very dissapointing.I'll keep trying. |
If its not "copyrighted" Walmart will do it.
Tom |
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SilverHawkDan R3/R4 Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:35 pm Post subject: Don't sweet it! |
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Stewed,
Take your time. It's not like I need it right away. When you get things
working just post it. I think I have things worked out for a place to
store and work on the car. Just waiting on a phone call.
Silver Hawk Dan
Tom,
What does Wally World share for this? _________________ Grew
up Studebaker. Family had a maximum of fourteen at one time. Drag raced
successfully in Southern California. Wanting to re-live the days. Going
to be flying down the salt in the Burke Avanti in 2010. 200 MHP? maybe. |
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