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    Correct intake manifold gaskets for 64 Lark R2 ?

    Can someone please tell me the correct Fel Pro part number for the intake manifold gaskets for a 64 289 supercharged Lark.

    I looked all over Bob Johnstone's web site and other links and some say the regular 289 gaskets will work and other sites say there is a special supercharged intake manifold gasket.

    My local part store has the Fel Pro brand. What is the appropriate Fel Pro number for gaskets I need?

    Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by studefan View Post
    Can someone please tell me the correct Fel Pro part number for the intake manifold gaskets for a 64 289 supercharged Lark.

    I looked all over Bob Johnstone's web site and other links and some say the regular 289 gaskets will work and other sites say there is a special supercharged intake manifold gasket.

    My local part store has the Fel Pro brand. What is the appropriate Fel Pro number for gaskets I need?

    Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jeff
    I don't think you'll find any V8 set at a parts store, and I use the standard V8 jobs although the R2 sets have a just a small hole for the exhaust heat tube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDP View Post
    I don't think you'll find any V8 set at a parts store, and I use the standard V8 jobs although the R2 sets have a just a small hole for the exhaust heat tube.
    I take that back, just found them on my Droid phone,Autozone app. $13.99 set # MS9001SH-1
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDP View Post
    I take that back, just found them on my Droid phone,Autozone app. $13.99 set # MS9001SH-1
    Cool beans. If your local autozone does not have them, you can PUNCH a 1/2 hole in the metal composite ones for the heat tube. Don't drill it out and don't ask how I know not to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by studebaker-R2-4-me View Post
    Cool beans. If your local autozone does not have them, you can PUNCH a 1/2 hole in the metal composite ones for the heat tube. Don't drill it out and don't ask how I know not to do this.
    Allen

    Where would you find Metal & Composite Intake Gaskets? Felpro the OEM Mfg. only makes beaded steel and the after market Composite ones have no bead to seal, but neither are available with a blocked heat port for R2 (they are all wide open) at Parts Stores or Stude. Vendors, unless you are talking about some Jon & Mike Myer have had custom made, not available anywhere, but at their store.

    Are these at some obscure Canada only store?
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    Call Phil Harris at Fairborn Studebaker. He probably has whatever you want.

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    There seems to be a misunderstanding about the R2 intake manifold gaskets. Although I don't have it before me at the moment, I remember there's a picture of them in the SAE article on the Avanti. The passenger side had a "wide open" heat riser passage, which provides plenty of room around the choke tube. The driver side has a small hole which allows some exhaust gas circulation through the heat riser passage. At least the driver side was made from stainless steel, since it was exposed to hot gasses. I think the passenger side is the same part# as for an R1.
    I think the heat riser can be dispensed with in warm climates, and the passages blocked. But what about the choke tube? An electric choke looks out of place, to me.
    Mike M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StudeRich View Post

    Where would you find Metal & Composite Intake Gaskets? Felpro the OEM Mfg. only makes beaded steel and the after market Composite ones have no bead to seal, but neither are available with a blocked heat port for R2 (they are all wide open) at Parts Stores or Stude. Vendors, unless you are talking about some Jon & Mike Myer have had custom made, not available anywhere, but at their store.

    Are these at some obscure Canada only store?
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    I have some more information about the 289/R2 intake manifold gaskets.

    Today, I picked up a set of standard 289 V8 intake manifold gaskets from AutoZone. They are Fel Pro # MS 9001SH1 and cost $13.99 as JDP stated.

    The gaskets I removed from the R2 engine in the car, which was recently rebuilt by Witmers Studebaker in Pennsylvania, are Victor #15042. The Victor and Fel Pro gaskets are identical with 5 equal size holes in each gasket.

    Also today, I called Studebaker International to try to learn more about the actual R2 gaskets. Bob said that one gasket had a blocked center hole to minimize the heat reaching the R2 carburetor. He said that the R2 carbs also had a thicker carb base gasket to further move the carb away from the hot intake manifold.

    I won't be driving this car for hours so I don't see how much difference these two types of gaskets would really make for me.

    Anyway, does anyone see any problems if I just use the standard 289 gaskets on the R2 engine?

    Thanks, Jeff

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    I got 4 intake manifold gaskets for both my Avanti's. R-1 and R-2 from Jon Meyer. I am not sure they are metal & composite, but I think they are, as they are surely not metal and are flexible black material. To prevent boil out of gas in carburetor, I used 2 each on each side, and sandwiched a thin piece of stainless steel cut to proper size on the middle heat-riser cross-over port, which was open on both gaskets. On the right side, I cut a small hole to allow the heat sensor for the automatic choke to pass through. There is no leakage of vacuum and I have had no more boil out since, although it did not get really hot here in Montana this summer. I also have the thick (4 layer) carb to manifold gaskets on both cars, but don't think it is necessary here as the intake manifold gasket modification seems to have solved the problem of gas boil out.

    It may take a little longer to warm up in winter, but I don't take the cars out unless it is above 50 and the streets are dry, which occurs occasionally in the winter in Montana.
    Jack in Montana


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    Quote Originally Posted by studefan View Post
    Anyway, does anyone see any problems if I just use the standard 289 gaskets on the R2 engine?Thanks, Jeff
    Yes there will be issues, a lack of performance with the Supercharged engine will happen with the overheated air in the intake, and possible percolating or vapor lock. When Studebaker spent the money, which was very short on supply to Engineer something special, it is my opinion that it was for very GOOD reason!

    StudeRich

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