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    1962 Lark master cylinder and possible booster questions

    OK: since my present single reservoir drum brake MC is DOA; what disc unit can I install into its stead so I can safely move the car? Weird question I realize but I plan to go with the Turner disc brake swap as soon as I get some more $$$. Needless to say: def a dual reservoir unit so I'm aware of modiflying brake hard lines which is no deal for me (I have all of the flaring tools plus I do this sort of work for a living).

    And if I were to go with a booster either 'now' or later; which one and would I need to change the brake pedal?
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    Others are free to post as they'd like, but it's probably easiest to confer with Jim Turner on this, since you are planning on using his disc setup (good idea, BTW).

    He'll know exactly what you should do and will be able to fix you up with anything you need. BP

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    On the 62 Daytona that I have since sold, I used a 68 Mustang M/C, of course, it was also disc brake equipped! <G>
    The reason "I" used the 68 Mustang is because the ports pointed away from the engine, thus giving more room to remove the valve cover (if ever needed) I did not use a booster, as the car stopped just fine with out.
    The trick on the M/C is: you MUST adjust the rod between the M/C and the pedal. They are a fixed unit from the factory. I cut the end off to make it square, then drilled and tapped a 10/32 hole in the end about 3/4" deep. Then I used a 10/32 button head allen and once I had the adjustment where I wanted it, I put a drop of loctite on it.

    The threads for the 3/16" line are 1/2-20 threads, and I have those correct fittings for the 3/16" line in stock.

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by 52 Ragtop View Post
    On the 62 Daytona that I have since sold, I used a 68 Mustang M/C, of course, it was also disc brake equipped! <G>
    The reason "I" used the 68 Mustang is because the ports pointed away from the engine, thus giving more room to remove the valve cover (if ever needed) I did not use a booster, as the car stopped just fine with out.
    The trick on the M/C is: you MUST adjust the rod between the M/C and the pedal. They are a fixed unit from the factory. I cut the end off to make it square, then drilled and tapped a 10/32 hole in the end about 3/4" deep. Then I used a 10/32 button head allen and once I had the adjustment where I wanted it, I put a drop of loctite on it.

    The threads for the 3/16" line are 1/2-20 threads, and I have those correct fittings for the 3/16" line in stock.

    Jim
    Jim; any chance I could use a 1970's 4 bolt Mopar manual brake MC instead or; for that matter, a same vintage Mustang II/Maverick/Granada unit? Why I wonder is I thought that all 1968 disc brake Fords including Mustangs used power assist hence different line pressures vs. pedal pressure/travel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1962larksedan View Post
    Jim; any chance I could use a 1970's 4 bolt Mopar manual brake MC instead or; for that matter, a same vintage Mustang II/Maverick/Granada unit? Why I wonder is I thought that all 1968 disc brake Fords including Mustangs used power assist hence different line pressures vs. pedal pressure/travel.
    https://www.studebakerparts.com/stude...s/dskdual.html

    I'm going to try Chuck's directions so at least I can safely drive the car around the shop as I fix other things. Then when I have a few more dollars I plan to use Jim's kit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 52 Ragtop View Post
    On the 62 Daytona that I have since sold, I used a 68 Mustang M/C, of course, it was also disc brake equipped! <G>
    The reason "I" used the 68 Mustang is because the ports pointed away from the engine, thus giving more room to remove the valve cover (if ever needed) I did not use a booster, as the car stopped just fine with out.
    The trick on the M/C is: you MUST adjust the rod between the M/C and the pedal. They are a fixed unit from the factory. I cut the end off to make it square, then drilled and tapped a 10/32 hole in the end about 3/4" deep. Then I used a 10/32 button head allen and once I had the adjustment where I wanted it, I put a drop of loctite on it.

    The threads for the 3/16" line are 1/2-20 threads, and I have those correct fittings for the 3/16" line in stock.

    Jim
    Quote Originally Posted by 1962larksedan View Post
    Jim; any chance I could use a 1970's 4 bolt Mopar manual brake MC instead or; for that matter, a same vintage Mustang II/Maverick/Granada unit? Why I wonder is I thought that all 1968 disc brake Fords including Mustangs used power assist hence different line pressures vs. pedal pressure/travel.
    Quote Originally Posted by 1962larksedan View Post
    https://www.studebakerparts.com/stude...s/dskdual.html

    I'm going to try Chuck's directions so at least I can safely drive the car around the shop as I fix other things. Then when I have a few more dollars I plan to use Jim's kit.
    Did some digging around @ the local auto parts places and; come to find out, not only are the Granada/Mustang II and small Mopar manual brake master cylinders thin of the ground (special order only AND $$$); I'm going to follow Jim's recommendations and ordered up a 1968 Mustang disc brake unit, they are readily available locally. Besides: $40 vs. twice as much for the others helped 'influence' my decision.
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    Bought a 1968 Mustang disc brake master cylinder and a 5' piece of brake line, plumbed everything together and shortened the pedal push road 1/4" to allow the MC piston to return to rest position. I still need to finish bleeding the system and install a proper plug on the junction block since the rear brake line has been split and rerouted. And I have to do something for a brake light switch. Keeping everyone posted
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1962larksedan View Post
    Bought a 1968 Mustang disc brake master cylinder and a 5' piece of brake line, plumbed everything together and shortened the pedal push road 1/4" to allow the MC piston to return to rest position. I still need to finish bleeding the system and install a proper plug on the junction block since the rear brake line has been split and rerouted. And I have to do something for a brake light switch. Keeping everyone posted
    Picked up a 3/16" plug; capped off the junction block where the rear brake line split of from and bled the system----------finally have a working brake pedal. Still need to rig up a stoplight switch but that's for another day; I kinda sorta need to get the car running first between dead starter, etc.
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    \"Do they all not, by mere virtue of having survived as relics of a bygone era, amass a level of respect perhaps not accorded to them when they were new?\"

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