Feb 2005 ////////////you replaced your front springs and had > problems. Something about noise from the coils hitting the frame or > spring tower? What was the problem and solution. ///////// -------------------------------- I replaced my springs, what happens is that the coil spring will rub in the upper cavaity where the spring seats, Dan Booth , said to gring off about 1/8 inch around where the plate is welded to the cavaity. when you have the coil spring out you can feel the ridge that rubs. I can send you a picture if you want. The Avanti spring 526134 was a 6 cyl sedan spring (.650" diam. wire according to my notes). Very similar to some of the V8 springs. Height was a bit less, since the load was slightly less with a 6. But this is what gave the rake. The problem of course is that it didn't take very long for the springs to sag enough for the fenders to crack on the tires. So actually a slightly taller V8 spring of the same diameter is a pretty good substitute. You may lose a little rake, but the rake never did that much for me anyway. The A-II, with it's lighter Chevy motor was a better balanced car; in fact I suspect that an all aluminum Chevy motor might tend to get the balance near the 50/50 mark, especially if you move the battery to the trunk. AFAIR the original Avanti was something like 62/38. Not good. --------------- Feb 2006 -------------- Check the other end of the spring from that US-4-80, where the last coil flattens you should see a 4 digit number. This number may be either on the inside or the outside of that last coil. For example, I have 2 sets of NOS out in the shop marked US-9-77 and 6122 at the other end (inside on some, outside on the others), which stands for #526122, a generic HD spring used in most everything from Hawks to Avanti(II)s. With Avantis they were used with one of the 1/2" aluminum spacers. Coil diameter is ~.670, about the same as the standard 526125 Avanti springs. The 526125's are taller than the 526122's, thus the need for the spacer. Tallest, stiffest of them all, AFAIK are the 526123 (about /12" taller than the 526125), but with a .750" coil diameter. wf. -------- In my book the standaed Avanti spring was 526135. Were all Studebaker springs the same gauge wire except the 526123? I know they used a variable spring from 1956 on . These springs were tapered wire so that the top of the spring was a thinner wire and the wire got heavier the lower you went. These seem to fatique sooner and the cars sagged. The 526122 spring was used for heavy duty and was the same gauge wire from top to bottom. The 526135 Avanti spring was also the same gauge wire on top and bottom. In general all numbers starting in 526 were the same gauge wire .650-670" from top to bottom and the seven digit numbers were the variable rate springs. ---------- 526134 which, as I remember, are the same number as HD for six-cylinder sedans. ------------ 526120 springs which are listed as HD for various six-cylinder models, but they are a good inch and a half taller than the Avanti springs. It seems strange that the 526122 is HD for Hawks, but standard for some sixes and HD for others. -------------- Some basics - the stiffness/load rating of a spring is expressed as lbs/inch. Thus a taller spring of the same load rating will give a higher ride height for a given weight on the spring. In general the spring rate is proportional to the diameter of the steel bar used to make the spring coils. The shop manual gives spring coil diameters, but not spring rates unfortunately. AFAIR later series of springs (the 7 digit part numbers) were variable rate springs, they would be stiffer the more they were compressed, thus a heavier load would not set the car down quite so low. Somebody needs to check me on that, I haven't seen one of the later series in a dozen or two years now.................. -- wf. ------------- the 7 digit numbers were indeed the variable rate springs, although I admit I have not seen any of those for a dozen years or two. The 526123's were .750" spring diameter, noticeably thicker even to the naked eye than the '122' and '125'. There were also some around .625 and .600, altho I forget which numbers now. I have NOS sets of 122, 123, & 125 out in the shop, guess I could have measured their free height just now when I was out there to pull my Moog catalog. If anybody is curious I can do it. Moog replaced the many of the Stude numbers with just 5 or 6 different springs. Here is some data from that catalog: Stude Moog Wire Load Ht. Load Rate Free Ht. 526122 370 .660" 9.25" 1590 377 13.5" 126 134 526120 382 .630 8.88" 1655 302 14.3" 127 526124 398/370 526128 368 No further data Near as I can tell the heaviest duty was 526123, followed by 526125. The 526125 was used as the HD spring for the '56 Goldie's. -- wf. ---------------